Friday, October 28, 2005
First Mock Trial
Miller
Pennock
- The gaps in the theory of evolution do not disprove it. We don’t now everything concerning history but we guess them to be true since we know the “basics.”
- While neither theory (evolution or I.D.) is proven, evolution has stood the test of time. Thus it is more credible.
- While one does not have to be a “fundamental Christian” to believe in the theory of Intelligent Design, I.D. is still inherently religious and therefore it is a violation of Church and State to implementation it in schools.
- If irreducible complexity was proven true, evolution could not stand. However, discoveries, such as TTSS, have poked holes through this theory. Because of this theory, I.D. and evolution cannot coexist.
- I.D. is not a science. Irreducible complexity is false.
- I.D. is theology. Evolution is a science and leaves room for religion. I (Miller) am not a materialist yet I am an evolutionist.
Pennock
- To believe in the theory of I.D. does not make one a Christian, and to believe in the theory of evolution does not make one an atheist. Miller’s theistic evolution is OK, and does not make evolution religious.
- Big Bang theory is not religious. Scientists came up with this theory. Atheism is not a scientific theory. If a scientist mixes in his or her personal beliefs, this is no longer science.
- Evolution is thought through by scientific method and thus is a scientific theory. One can believe in one theory and have his own personal beliefs.
- A computer program that generates a swift self-replicating “organism” lets us see evolution on its course. The program is design to see evolution go, not to find the origin of life, since the first organism must be programmed by a person.
- Mythological naturalism is the basis of science. Science is about ideas based on logic and nature. Once we try to fit God or some supernatural power into the scope of practice, we will get caught up into the mysterious black hole and cannot ever get out.
- Some believe that naturalism in science is out of place.
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The TTSS (Type 3 Secretory System) is a machine at the base of the flagellum. Essentially, Darwinists claim that the TTSS was a precursor to the flagellum, so they say that the flagellum cannot be irreducibly complex. Milt Saier's work at UC-San Diego provides evidence to the contrary. For a response to the TTSS by ID theorists, see this PDF.
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